Poe’s Point > Why Tytus?

I was a little surprised at how limited the articulation ended up being. I knew about the lack of bicep cuts and hip hinges, but I was shocked that they went with cut neck and arms.

Still, he's looked really cool in the comparison pics with other MOTUC figures, so I'll take a shot at getting one. I'll be there to get Peck anyway. I don't think I'll be running off to ebay if I miss out on him, though.

This figure is way too expensive.King Grayskull sells for that much because he looks awesome, Tytus well he looks like any other hair-metal artist from the 80's. Instead of selling this guy they should have sold the castle itself or something more prominent like vehicles. Then there's that mystical fact that when he was first release he was never made in the U.S.; so technically we should have no attached love to it. I don't think the less articulation hurts the figure, I think its the design and price-50 dollars for a in house figure that's hollowed out?

Yeah just helping out the hardcore fans.

@Dead Man: I sorta collect the line, and I buy the figures based on how cool or funny they are to me. The whole serious part (the warriors) seem cheesy. That said, it looks just as homo-erotic as He-man. But its not about that its just I bought my DC Giants of Justice Flash and Batman and paid 30 bucks max (That was at retail), so then they come out with this guy and they spike the price up by what 20 bucks. I feel like if people buy the figure then Mattel will be charging more and more.

I'll be passing due to price and the fact that my nostalgia for old toys (which I played with) and the cartoon color my collecting. Plus, as Poe says I've got DCUC going still so that $50 can be used elsewhere.

I asked this question on the PG PoA forum the other day, and I'm still not sure if I've made up my mind.

First and foremost, the lack of the ball joints is quite disappointing, but its not going to be my deciding factor as to whether or not I even try to get him.

I guess I'm just not in as much awe of him as other people are. I didn't even know he existed until I got online. At least with a character like Scareglow, even though I never had him as a kid, I knew he existed, and therefore I had to have him. I can totally appreciate and even admire that they did make him. For fans who knew about Tytus and never got him. Its sorta like going to see your favorite band and hearing them play that ultra rare b-side that you never thought you’d ever have a chance to hear live.

I also watched Pixel Dan's review and it really didn't help much in making my decision.

I made a list of pros and cons to help me decide. On the plus side, he’s a great looking 4H sculpted figure from MOTU lore (c’mon, he BUILT Castle Grayskull!). As Poe pointed out, when we get Megator, he’ll have someone to face off against, and finally, he can chill with He-Ro in the meantime (cuz he’s all by himself right now). The biggest drawback for me is the price tag. If this was $30, I wouldn’t have quite as much trouble justifying it. By the time you get through with tax ($2.50) and then shipping (presumably $12-$15) you’re spending at minimum $52.50… and as someone who still doesn’t have Battle Cat, I’m wondering if that money should be put towards getting him on eBay.

We don’t know if Matty will re-issue this guy, so here’s at least a chance to get him w/o having to pay the over inflated prices on eBay.

I'm thinking at the very LEAST, I could at least try to get him, providing that he doesn't sell out in .5 seconds and the site doesn't crash, and if I'm not happy with him, I'm sure someone would be more than happy to take him off my hands.

-x

I think it's funny this guy wants you to explain why he should want it when he obviously doesn't want it in the first place.

If you don't want it, don't buy it, maybe I'll actually get to buy something from that wretched site this month before the three minute sellout.

I honestly do not think this figure is worth $50. Far better sculpted and articulated figures like the Marvel Legends Icons series and the Famous Covers figures were less than half of $50.

If this was a re-issue of the vintage one, well…then it would be worth $50.

@George: I take it by hair metal you meant Manowar LOL they are Power Metal!

For me, it's not so much the price of these things (although I do say $40 is a bit much for this guy) as it is the AMOUNT of stuff being released at the same time. For people only collecting one line it's not as big of a deal but I get MOTUC, DCUC, and Ghostbusters.

Besides my subscription, May has Tytus and Walter Peck. June has Keldor, Pete Venkman AND the DCUC Wave 5 Box Set. August will have all the standard editions of the SDCC stuff! Too much beautiful plastic at one time. My bank account is tired of taking it up the coast.

Sorry, this turned into a rant. Tytus rules! Ball joints or not, and even at 40 clams.

Not to be a total schill, but I think there's something to be said about being, erm, appreciative towards Mattel for making something they didn't have to make at all. I'm not all smiles about Tytus, but I'm glad to know they're at least putting the time and effort into making him. Of course the reality is that it serves their own interests… making money, giving fans a long sought after figure is sort of an afterthought. That said, why does anybody do anything? 9 times out of 10 it’s for the greenbacks. I still like my analogy of going to see your favorite band though, and hearing them play a long lost b-side or something.

People have been complaining about this line since day one. Fact is that you’re never going to please everyone, but if a few fans can get a Tytus or a Mosquitor or whatever and that makes ‘em happy, then that’s not such a bad thing.

@RageTreb: Obviously Poe cares, so shut your filthy dragon mouth.

That was a joke.

Don't mind Tytus's shortcomings but honestly Matty online is becoming a real wallet breaker. Too much product too quickly.

what i said before was actually relating to most of poe's points, rather than just the first.

for example, it continues into the "if we don't support large releases we won't get future large releases"…i have a problem with this. it's like when hasbro released the felucian "battle rancor" and then said sales of that figure would determine if they released it later as jabba's rancor. so it makes us, the collectors, feel responsible when a less desirable product causes a more desirable product to not see the light of day. like it's OUR fault that we're seeing tytus before grayskull or another large set, and it's OUR fault if it doesn't sell out in 5 minutes.

and @ prfktear, i'm sorry but you're totally sounding like a shill here. yes yes it's wonderful that mattel has descended from on high and reintroduced the MOTU line (which it helped destroy back in 200x), and they ALLOW us fans to buy them at soaring high prices (as for poe's argument that you're saving gas so you can't count shipping, i don't see how you can do that when the ONLY way to purchase the figures is through matty. and there's also that "mystery tax" thing). while it really is great that there is still a MOTU line in the world, mattel makes you guys take it on the chin and jump through hoops in ridiculous ways to get one measley figure, and you just sit there and take it and say "well thank god we have ANYTHING". not a month goes by that there isn't SOME problem resulting it a rant or a backlash, because mattel is just not a well run company, and their respect for fans is extremely suspect. they have no reason to change their ways though, because their fans still drool over their product. right now i've got a shelf full of DCUC staring back at me while i write this. i WANT mattel's product. if i could just go to the store and buy it at a semi reasonable price i would. but i can't.

so i have to make a deal with some guy and trade stuff for some exclusive figure like DCUC 10. or somehow get on a computer at 12 noon on a workday in the middle of the week to constantly reload my screen and HOPE TO GOD i get whatever figure they're selling that day before it sells out in 30 seconds.

and mattel has pretty much told us it considers figures "failures" if they don't sell out entirely, and do so in a ridiculously quick fashion. it's like they enjoy jerking our chains. if all figures had to sell out immediately to be successes, you'd have some pretty empty toy aisles. it's as though mattel relishes in making its toys difficult to procure.

furthermore they frequently give misleading information about all kinds of stuff, including especially the future availability of figures (TRU exclusives…or maybe not! we don't know! we'll never re-release exclusives! just kidding we did! but we won't tell you if we're going to or not…until we do!)

then there's stuff like the gleek debacle. it's like mattel enjoys creating problems and seeing how much they can push the fans until they stop buying the product. i guarantee someone somewhere in a mattel office is laughing at how much abuse matty fans can take and still buy up every single product they offer.

so no, i don't take solace in the argument that "hey, at least mattel is making MOTUC at all!" because it's more of a pain than it's worth to me.

i grew up with MOTU, and i collected the 200X line pretty heavily, which in itself was a pain, so you would think i would be right there with you all in kissing mattels' dirty boots, but the truth is their business practices have turned me totally off.

i would love to have a shelf full of MOTU figures, but it's not worth the hassle for me. although, as i've said, i'll trample a gaggle of soccer moms to get an optikk…however, i doubt i'll get the chance seeing as i have a fricking job that expects me to work at 12 noon instead of reloading a computer screen for a toy selling website. and since the figure will be considered a failure if it doesn't sell out in seconds, i doubt optikk (or two face) will be there for me at the end of the workday.

/rant

@toyman2581: i also didn't care about gleek, but you only spelled out part of the debacle. imagine actually showing up for the con, thinking you got a gleek, and then finding out you didn't. and THEN mattel magically discovers a big ol' box o' gleeks someone "forgot" to bring to the con. then they let them go on fwoosh.

and instead of saying apologizing profusely, they pretty much said "hey we never SAID going to the con guaranteed you a gleek, we just said you'd have the chance to get one there"…unfortunately they said it would be the ONLY way to "have a chance" to get one, and that was a lie, as congoers missed out and fwoosh members got lucky.

but i'm sure everyone already knows this.

@PrfktTear: I think that this point gets lost too quickly amongst the so-called fanbase. Everyone is entirely too quick to jump on every little thing and blow genuine faults out of proportion.

And while it is true that the Icons line from Marvel Legends were better articulated, they came out during a much different economy.

i'm personally skipping tytus for several reasons:

1) the price explanation is a lie. rotocast figs are cheaper to ship, not cheaper to produce. the process is dangerous, releases a ton of hazardous chemicals, and ultimately yeilds a less durable, less posable toy. the reason we were given that he "would cost 100 dollars" to produce to motuc standards is flat out wrong.

2) tytus will sell out anyway. i'm not worried about pushing the line or investing in future big figures… if i skip a figure here and there in motuc that aren't my cup of tea, i refuse to be compelled to "take one for the team" the team has been ensuring sellouts since the inception of the line.

3) if i bought a fig i didn't think was up to standard, i've voted to matel, throuh my purchase, that i am a whore w/ no standards and no restraint. i'm a lot of things… but i'm niether a whore nor lacking restraint

4) he's a giant who can't look down at his puny enemies… that's just flat out egregious

5) he can't hold nor use the provided weapon. so why is it there?

6) i'm willing to wager on my customization skills to get a better version of the figure for a character i like… yes, i like the character of tytus, i like the concept, it's just this figure i can't broker. so i snagged a maximum aggression triple h and am slowly doing the work… and he'll end up being much cheaper than tytus. and he'll be able to look down at his opponents, he'll be able to crouch, he'll be able to bend over, pick up skeletor, and toss him to the next county.

7) i'm saving my "big money" investments for this line into product i think is genuinely worth the price tag, like gygor and battle cat.

on the whole, i must say to the naysayers of this line, i too have objections on the price tag, and the overly difficult method of attaining these figures… but that said… this is without doubt my dream line for motu. for a number of reasons, including durability, character selection… millenium motu can blow my balls. to disrespect, but that line never appealed to me on aesthetic or playability.

Honestly, I think he's too small to be called a true Giant… He's big, but not big enough to build a Castle.

I understand Mattel's side, of course ( The price of a truly giant would be very high ) but, IMO, the vintage figure is SO much better than this one.

Anyway, he is not giant enough to me… I'll be skipping this one.

The lack of articulation is a turn off as well.

He's not a bad figure at all. I just don't feel moved for his size and his lack of articulation.

Anyway, it's just my opinion…

Cheers,

D.

dayraven, I can't wait to see what you accomplish with that HHH figure. Sounds very promising!

I have a Battle Cat waiting for me in the States, 'cause a friend bought a few for customizing and then decided to customize the eventual Panthor instead, and so he kindly offered me one of his extras.

Presumably, I'll eventually buy a figure of He-Man to go with Battle Cat, and I predict that'll be my one and only purchase from this line. The 2002 series was very flawed, but for me the Classics series has still failed to match up to the imagination of the 2002 series.

I can count all the Mattel figures I've owned in the past decade on one or maybe two hands; I say again, everything Mattel does makes me feel an urge to write a thank-you note to Hasbro.

@dayraven: Vintage Tytus was designed as a toy with actual play features, for this alone he is far better than MOTUC Tytus. Also the rooted hair was very cool IMO LOL.

@I♥AnimeskelesowrdsandMYPhaironheman: dude, ebay the triple h, i got mine from britain for almost what re retailed for. shop around a little and you can find some good deals on those maximum aggression figures.

and thanks guys, for putting all this pressure on me to make sure my tytus looks good… did i mention i don't handle pressure well? 😉

By the way, when I talk about the MOTUC Tytus' size as being not giant enough I'm thinking about his scale with the other figures… Comparing his size with the other MOTUC figures, he's big… But he should be bigger to have the same giant effect of the old one.

In this link there's a picture to show the size of the old one comparing it to the vintage figures.
http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/showthread.ph…

Thinking about scale, I believe the vintage Tytus is a better giant than the MOTUC one.

Cheers,
D.

I’ll be right there on the picket line with some of ya folks, Mattel has flocked up real good a bunch of times, but at some point you’ve just got to let it go. If you don’t like going on Matty on the 15th of each month and dealing with DR, then don’t buy ‘em. If you feel as though you’re being overcharged for shipping, don’t buy ‘em. If you feel as though their “mystery tax” (by the way, its called SALES TAX here in Massachusetts) is unjust, don’t buy ‘em. If you still hold it against Mattel for every single Gleek, art book, Wave 5-ocalypse, then don’t buy ‘em.

I cannot fathom how short sighted people can be when it comes to the cost in shipping. To me it is well worth the time and gas money you would spend going from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart or TRU to TRU every day for two weeks just looking for that one figure.

Finally, if I had to have the option of MOTUC with all of its problems and complications or NO MOTUC at all, my choice is obvious.

People have been nothing but negative about this line since the beginning. It seems like they want it to fail just so they can sit in their highchair on their little mound of internet dirt and say “I told you so”.

@dayraven: A lot of the shops where I live were selling them for £9.99.

The more MOTUC stuff that comes out the more I think reissues of the older figures would be better…..Tytus, Megator, Laser Light He-Man and Skeletor etc.

If people are still around complaining, they're probably also still buying the figures (at least once in a while), or else why would they care enough to complain? You should be thanking the complainers for their retail support of the line you love. You're free to ignore the complaints and keep buying the figures. 😉

Incidentally, I think one of those old "Men of Honor" gigantic action figures would make a great Titus base figure. Talk about giant! http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_101102b.htm

Something to take note of with all the complaints and critiques.

(Moreso the critiques…)

If you're being criticized, then your most likely onto something. 😉

I would dare say that's the case with MotUC.